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February 22, 2008 / Nick

Do Oneness Pentecostals believe that God is no longer the Father, or the Son?


A depiction of the Trinity doctrineThe critics of Oneness Pentecostalism usually revert to very ancient arguments when trying to refute our dcotrine. They try to make Oneness Pentecostals equal with the Monarican Modalism as defined by Tertullian when he wrote against Praxeas, and later Christian Monarchian Sabellius.While it is true that their are similarities between the belief of Oneness believers and the Monarchian Modalists, who believed Father, Son & Holy Ghost are 3 manifestations of the One God – as opposed to the Trinitarian view of eternal, co-equal ‘Persons’.There is one stricking difference which critics of the Oneness Pentecostals often miss.Tertullian criticsed Praxeas for believing that God assumed the role of Father in Creation, then in redemption He was the Son and now He is the Holy Ghost, the problem being that Tertullian reports his opponents don’t believe God is NOW Father, or NOW the Son (i.e. those roles have passed). As none of the writings of the Monarchian Modalists exist today we can’t know for certain if they really did understand God in that way. But, today Oneness Pentecostals are accused of not believing that God is NOW Father and God is NOW Son, due to our belief in God who manifests in 3 roles.

The truth is that Apostolic’s don’t limit God to a series of linear, successive manifestations. God in His infinite power is Father, Son and Holy Ghost simletaneously and yet He is still ONE. And Jesus is the express image of His person (Col. 1:3).So, just to set the record straight. Oneness Pentecostals believe in One God, who is at the same time Father, in the Son and working as the Holy Ghost today.

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5 Comments

  1. 1st_veracity / May 2 2009 9:56 am

    God is God. No limits.

  2. Chris / Sep 7 2009 4:21 pm

    Trinitarians believe that God is one as well. That is why Liturgy refers to the “Life Creating Trinity” as “One in Essence and Undivided”.

  3. Bishop Dilshad Bhatti / Oct 31 2009 11:01 am

    Respected,
    pastors\evangelists\coordinators\missionaries,\

    International Full Gospel Fellowship church Pakistan
    Nasrat Town Islamabad Pakistan

    Rev Dilshad Bhatti
    History

    I bore in 20th March 1980 in a village in Pakistan. My father was working as a farmer as well as
    Shoe maker. I got earlier education in a village then came to in Rawalpindi City
    and I passed Matriculation in Rawalpindi in 1995.After that I Came in Lahore another City
    there in a missionary Institute Dar-ul-Hikmat I got the Education till Graduation since 2000.
    and I completed my masters of computer sciences in Sep 2001 and also two years seminary
    course actually in morning I was attending the seminary classes and MCS Classes in Evening..
    Then I came to Rawalpindi in 2001 and started the ministry with my Elder Brother pastor Nawaz Bhatti
    in Jesus Calls Church as a assistant pastor and in 2nd Feb 2005 We got the affiliation with
    International Full Gospel Fellowship and with joint hands we are trying to encourage the pastors
    in different areas to spread the good news in Pakistan there are 50pastor with our organization Economically
    we are not sporting them but In spiritually we help each other.
    Personally we have two churches one in Islamabad and other in Rawalpindi.
    In Rawalpindi we have 150 families almost two hundred members in Islamabad we are on initial stages.

    Family Introduction

    Thanks Lord my father and mother are alive and they are spiritually strong and Guide us.
    I have three brother and three sisters I mean we are Seven. Fours brothers and two sisters are married and one sister is virgin .We three brothers are pastor in the same organization.

    I have got married in 15th April. My was the Sunday school teacher and now she is working as Lady Pastor
    I have two kids both are the boys. But now I have one. The sister of my wife adopted my younger son.
    I agreed to give them because they have got married before 12years ago and not found any child.
    But the mighty God give me the vision the to help them in such crisis.
    Pastor Ejaz Masih is working with me as a pastor and encouraging me with all ministry activities.

    Church Activities

    Mainly we have Sunday service 10:00 am to 12:00 am
    And Sunday school with three Sunday school teachers
    We are having almost 150 children in Sunday school
    The World Harvest is our organization which appreciate the children and we are thinking about
    Orphans and widows to help them at the same time we are not having any opportunities.

    1. I am working as a pastor as well as the President of World Harvest.
    2. Basically we are self supported organization.
    3. I have settled in new establishing community and Started the Church Ministry
    4. Sunday school.
    5. Saba Montessori School For poor community.

    Visions For 2009

    1. Churches planting.
    2. Youth Education.
    3. Seminars/Evangelism.
    4. Having Own Church Building.
    5. Education For non affording people.
    6. Help the homeless Families.
    7. Economically support the pastors for their ministry.
    8. Vehicle for Ministry.
    9. To start seminary to equip the Leaders.
    10. Prayer meetings.
    11. To build A hospital For poor.
    12.To win the souls for Jesus

    Note:
    I need ministry partners, prayer partner, Evangelists, Teachers,
    God fearing people who could help me in ministry please pray for me as well as for my ministry.
    If you could forward my letter to other ministers it would be great honors for me
    Also share this thing in you Sunday services and important meeting it would be great honor for me.
    May the Lord Bless your family and ministry

    Your brother in Christ.

    Rev Dilshad Bhatti
    ++92-333-5393106
    pastordilshad@yahoo.com
    bhatti_dilshad@yahoo.com
    bhatti.dilshad@gmail.com

  4. Dr. Bernie Wade / Nov 23 2009 11:29 pm

    This is very well written. Superior to most of the articles written on the subject. The writer gets to the major points, answers the critics and then states the position.

    Well done.

    That is the view from my porch….

    Blessings!

  5. Dr. Bernie Wade / Oct 22 2010 2:09 pm

    When men try to understand God with idols or mathematical equations it always leads to error. We need to be careful to use the terms that God used to describe Himself. When we look at the OT as the true instead of made in the pattern, when we see everything from Genesis instead of seeing everything from Calvary we miss the interpretation of key Scriptures like “Let us make man in our image”. What image? The one that God would manifest Himself – Jesus Christ. Those in error try to see this an another person rather than what God said, “The manifestation of God”. Perspective is key in understanding Scripture.

    That is the view from my porch…

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