It can not remain unspoken that Ton3x is a shame to the name Apostolic
I have to say that Tonex is a big embarrassment to the Apostolic (Oneness Pentecostal) movement. He was born and raised in the Pentecostal Assemblies of the World, had the privilege of being mentored by Bishop Norman L Wagner, and yet the guy is totally from the pit of hell.
Posts like ‘Tonex has forgotten God‘ I have to agree with 100%, he has moved so far away from the landmark, that he is now playing in the devil’s court. In a recent interview he is quoted as saying he believes that ‘Jesus is the way for me, but not necessarily someone else’. This is the kind of thing I expect from Oprah, not a Christian.
“I respect all faiths and I’ve studied all faiths. So you know how can you really understand humankind if your way is the only way?”
I know the way for me, …for me it’s Jesus but for someone else it may not be. And I’m not going to bash who they are because they don’t believe what I believe.” [Video available here]
There are some who are using the fact Tonex came from an Apostolic church as an argument against what we believe. However, I can assure you that Tonex is not representing anyone in the Oneness Pentecostalism, he is only speaking on behalf of himself and his strange ideas. To see what actual Apostolic Pentecostals from different churches think, check out the Apostolic Friends Forum which has a discussion thread entitled: “SHOCKER!! PAW Min. Tonex embraces Carlton Pearson’s Doctrine on TV Show”
Tonex is an Apostolic train wreck! He has lived a very public questionable lifestyle and his father would never have endorsed such nonsense. (Comment on Apostolic Friends Forum)
No true Apostolic would ever release a song that needed Parental Advisory warning due to the profane language of the lyrics, as Tonex (Ton3x) did in Naked Truth. Here are the lyrics, courtesy of Craige Lewis - after reading, tell me which gospel artist ever did a song like that?
THE NAKED TRUTH
I know the truth now.
I feel like crying but I’m not sad
I feel like yelling but I’m not angry
I feel like screaming but I’m not scared
I’m not afraid anymore and I got out ALIVE.I peeled off layers of b-llsh-t and falsehood
I peeled off years of slander and embarrassment.
The fighting at school for being called out my name
I peeled off the first day Dionne McGriff called me that nameMy core is strong,my abs are tight
For get the six pack, try “10 pack”… alright ?
I’m black but I don’t resent being called a Nigga
I took the power from its origin and made it a triggerI’m wiser I’m thicker I’m sexy I’m bold
I’m hot I’m next I’m saved to the bone
I’m prophet
I’m model
I’m singer
I’m rapper
My swagger is corporate
My thug life is dapperI got out just in time before I lost my mind
I’m good I’m cool I’m alright I’m fine
I’m fine as the hell I’ve been rescued from
I’m not just a Baller , yo my nephew is one.I got my cock back
no longer castrated
I’m revered & and loathed
I’m applauded and hatedI’m gone keep coming back
I love to be underrated
so I can prove they -ss wrong
and y’all can copy and paste itIf you beat my -ss up it ain’t because I’m afraid
I’ll never lose my heart of courage I’ll say it up in your face
y’all stabbed me in the side but I got back up
y’all tried to defame me and smash me but I got back upI never thought that I would have the strength to “man” back up
Now I can stand with my middle finger stuck right up
I did it I made it, the genius, the faggot
the wierdo the homo the hobo the magnetcuz I keep drawing back cuz you wanna see more
gimme 3 years I’ll spark a revival bigger than william J seymour
baptizing all the people that your -ss can’t reach
using my hands to grab a basin to wash my enemies feetdon’t judge a tree by the fruit gotta go to the root
there’s nothin else y’all can say to me…..
I have to conclude that Tonex (Ton3x) has left the Apostolic principles of holiness and gone his own way. In fact, apparently Ton3x (Tonex) is now a believer in the Trinity.
For the uninitiated, Tonex is a fellow that God blessed with genius – like musical talent and excellent preaching ability. Unfortunately, Tonex grew up in a “holiness or hell” Pentecostal church whose false doctrine came out of the modalist Oneness Pentecostal heresy. Now Tonex himself believes in Trinity (source: http://healtheland.wordpress.com/2007/03/30/tonex-is-back-is-that-a-good-thing/)
I’m glad he is not part of the Gospel music …. He is in sin. Kick him out of your cd collection. let his money faize out ….
I heard this from Greg Lewis… Also, kirk Franklin has issues with porn…
“Also, Kirk Franklin has issues with porn…..”
Whoa! What Christian doesn’t have problems? If not porn, could it be fornication, adultery, gossip, backbitting, envy, lust, thinking more highly of themselves than they ought? Being saved doesn’t excuse us from the commission of sin. I am not an advocate of us looking at things that grieve GOD. At the same time, I commend Kirk for being true. He confessed his fault while we hid in dark places with ours. He brought humanity to being whatever level of Christian he is. Remember the old saying,”Being saved does not mean you’re perfect, just forgiven?” How many of us that read this blog didn’t just get finished doing contrary things? He that is without sin cast the first stone. Go, and sin no more. It’s not a license, just grace for another day to work out our soul’s salvation.
Many will use what I said to say we shouldn’t judge. I agree. GOD hasn’t put us into judge mode yet. We will judge later. GOD doesn’t want us to just let sin go either. Charles Barkley talked on TV about “fake Christians’ judging because we’re against gay marriage and abortion. The thing is judgement is putting someone away for unlawful acts of commission or ommission. We can be against things that GOD is against, because we speak by HIS authority. When we speak we come with words of grace. If they receive- HALLELUJAH! If they don’t- shake the dust off your feet and roll on! GOD will deal with them.
I am scared of yall. What happen to pray for the loss
Let’s not give up, he might be a prodigal son, he may still return to his Fathers table. <{
True. I don’t believe that he should be written off, I did wonder if my post was too harsh. Let us pray that God will turn Tonex back into who he was determined to be – an ambassador for Christ who reflects Jesus through His music and life. A lot of young Christians are looking to him, so it would be great if he’d be a better example.
Why? , judging others, if tonex decided to be radical is his problem, if he done something outside the word, god knows. we are not God . he has a great gift from God, but the what not seen, or knew of it, or I find strange, I have no right to criticize or judge, why not do a prayer, to our repentance for criticizing, rather than pray for brother Tonex … God Has Not Forgot about Him, Can me Undestand … God Bless yours …
Something happen in my brothers life and never been dealth with. come on now the satan has pulled out the big guns. now ant no gelly back weak knee can’t read my word don’t pray now more caught in my flesh saint going make it. When I see tonex is pain so one hurt him maybe mentally or fleshly who knows. He really needs our prayers of compassion not condemnation.
Vanessa, I do agree that Tonex needs our prayers. I am not condemning him, only pointing out what is wrong with the road he is on right now.
I believe we need to pray for Tonex but JESUS CHRIST is the only way to God there is no other way.
We all very much need prayer.Myself,I am struggling with my walk with Christ and I am not without fault.I would like to ask for prayer for myself.Although,I am not familiar with this singer I am familiar with the sin that he is in.Whether it’s sin that I have committed in the past,present or future or sin that I have seen or heard from others.He is a lost soul but isn’t it a glorious thing that we all can be forgiven by the grace of God through his son Jesus Christ.Continue praying for this fellow and all that are in need,the lost souls,the saved,the ill,and unsaved.Be blessed!!!!
WOW..judgmental are we? Thank you LORD for your grace, because if you left the judging up to the PAW, we’d all be burning in hell…Its so strange to me how the finger is so quickly pointed and the self-rightious comments fly like fierce darts, especially when someone expresses their trial…this is a prime example why young people don’t get involved in church anymore, and why people are scared to express themselves…I am inspired by people of many different genres, especially ones who are not afraid to stand out and break out of the status quo…we need to stop judging each other…worship is the key..not perfection…
I am very glad that Ton3x is a true man of God and true to his principles. He is caring and genuine. He is talented and non-conforming. He is a pastor and a true servant.
I have bought his records and will continue to do so. I actually hope he makes loads and loads of money so he can invest in more God-given ideas and let his creativity flow.
To all the jealous people above – grow up.
Tonex is not right! What he is doing is a shame and abomination. For you young in the gospel, Jesus taught that if a man is going to follow after him “You must first deny yourself.” Take up your cross and follow him. It doesn’t matter what you are struggleing with Saint’s, we are to overcome it, If we want to be saved. Rev. 21:7. Psycology say accept it, God says overcome it. I know Tonex and I think he, like many in the body of Christ, reap what we so, when we judge others. When we judge others God says that the same will come to us. Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment that you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, “Let me take the speck out of your eye,” when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye. Matt 1:5
That’s why somtimes we can pray and pray to be delivered and cannot over come not overcome. Intercessors need to know this Law of god. Somtimes the person you are praying for can’t be delivered because the have caused a stumbling block judging another God’s law says you will be met by the say demons that came after the person you judged. I’ve heard Tonex and plenty of others including myself make flipped judgmental comments about others situations, most of the time we didn’t understand that we were causing our own demise when we opened our mouth. I believe that God will for4give , deliver and restore Tonex when he has served the sentence of his own judgmental spirit. I remember when he stood in a pastor’s pulpit in a Las Vegas and before the service he found out the pastor had aproblem with porn. Tonex mocked the pastor and thre pastor’s annointing by continuing to use the phrase “Yea, right, that will be great! Later he tried to influence key leaders in that church that the pastor had a problem. So, Remember Saint nothing just happens. God is a just God is a just God. I talked to that pastor about it He said. ‘We all need to stop Judging others and judge ourselves. ‘ He also said that’s why the body is week because we take that law of God for lightly.
God Bless!
I would say that Tonex was never saved to begin with, not that he all of a sudden lost his way. What do you guys/gals think?